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Post by controller on May 23, 2012 11:07:08 GMT
Situation. I assumed I was entered in the singles (as normal) but it was messed up. I had no idea I wasn't entered. I am not allowed in by drawing venues rather than names (for me and one or two others I gather) despite there being 2 or 3 spaces at every venue.
The committee are not filling the spaces for fear of players being upset of extra competition being added. Or simply filling the blanks they have left at these venues. I think this is stupid.
How can a committee make a decision based on a possible bleeting individual.
I doubt anyone would moan.
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Post by The Halifax Ringer on May 23, 2012 11:48:53 GMT
This is entirely the fault of you and your captain. If you don't trust your captain to enter you into the competition and it's that important to you, drop the comp sec a message around the deadline day to confirm entry.
The draw has been made, the committee have to draw a line otherwise organisation gets messy. Good luck in next seasons singles though.
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Post by The Halifax Ringer on May 23, 2012 11:52:13 GMT
How can a committee make a decision based on a possible bleeting individual? Does this post not confirm you wish the committee to make a decision based on a bleeting (sic) individual? (you)
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Post by Steve McCann on May 23, 2012 13:18:44 GMT
I'll just add a little bit of fuel to this debate...
If we allow people to enter after the draw has been done, at what point do we draw the line where no more entrants are allowed? We're not paid for the work we do as a committee, should I be expected to drive around the Cambridge area collecting £2's from people who enter late.
If someone wants to enter at 7.30pm on the evening of the event, what happens then? Do I tell them to drive to my house with £2 and then tell them which venue to do to... does the steward at that venue wait patiently until 8pm to see if someone new has entered at the last minute.
If we allow one or two people to enter late... would there be any motivation to the other captains to get their entries in on time? If not, then we'd have a draw on the website of about 12 people at 16 venues... and a huge number of byes and no one would know who they're playing or where until much closer to the event.
In a world where anyone can enter at any time up until the event, either I'll be chasing people for £2's or people will be chasing me to give £2's. The stewards can't collect the money as they are decided by me based on who I think is most likely to turn up and I believe is able to do a draw without incident (with some consideration for not having the same people as stewards every time!), they don't sign up to collect money for me and I wouldn't ask them to. I think it's very obvious that in this event, all the players in the league would be asking for a deadline to be set (a competitions deadline perhaps?) whereby they can pay all their entries in one go at a time and a location where I will be available to accept the entries and where they can get a receipt if necessary.
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qpower
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Post by qpower on May 23, 2012 13:55:34 GMT
your captain should ask if you want to do comps and which ones,also i know you have access to the internet so you can go to the c.a.p.l website and see when entries must be in,so all it takes is a call to your captain to make sure he puts your name down,if this doesn't happen then its your own fault,this has been how it is for many seasons and a seasoned pro like yourself should know what happens every season
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Post by controller on May 23, 2012 15:12:31 GMT
Money isn't an issue here so I'll discard that. The deadline isn't a problem. I agree with that. Matt. This must be great for you hence 2 posts and obvious w4nking while writing it. However, your points are obvious and therefore right.
My point is simple... There are spaces! That should be enough! No?... The reason I can't play is cos someone will moan ( obviously scared of competition in a competition). Poor poor poor, pathetic. It is an oversight, as stated by my captain. So this decision could be made as an individual situation?
I would like to ask why there are only 5 or 6 players at each venue. We venues getting £20 profit more important than players playing? Considering this why is it (like many comps I've played in) latecomers can't take the vacancies you've created!
I was good enough to help out at county level last month when they were short (without trailing) but can't fill a gap in CAPL singles cos it has no benefit to the organisation? Only risk of a "possible" complaint!
Why dont you list all entrants to view. I would have spotted the oversight.
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Post by Griss and Sidle on May 23, 2012 15:40:12 GMT
Bang. Bang. Bang. Boooom! Crash bang wallop! Oo. That's the sound of the orrible thoughts being shot down. Rules are rules. If we didn't have rules where would we be? France. If we had too many. Where would we be??? Germany As a player in the event and a captain, I think your captain owes you a huge apology. I know the rules as brought in by the committee, you voted in the committee members for them to make and follow thru with the rules. If you didn't vote. Then shut up!!!
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Post by controller on May 23, 2012 15:49:19 GMT
What rules? It's a deadline! Bit different. The committee are formed to decide on mitigating factors. They have spaces. Where's the harm? I agree that the guidlines are there. It's not a rule! The committee can make decisions on these things! That's in the constitution to. I'm not disputing that I missed the deadline. I'm disputIng he reasoning on their decision and lack of common sense!
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Post by controller on May 23, 2012 15:50:46 GMT
Where is the entry list?
The one that should be posted before the draw?
We all make mistakes then...?
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Post by controller on May 23, 2012 15:51:44 GMT
Wayne. Get that Blutooth off your ear. You look stoopid
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Post by Craig Benstock on May 23, 2012 16:30:10 GMT
Wayne. Get that Blutooth off your ear. You look stoopid lol!
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Post by THE_SMILLIE_AURA on May 23, 2012 17:35:04 GMT
Put him in the Hopbine venue, sorted, he **** anyway so doubt any of them will mind, I don't.
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Post by The Halifax Ringer on May 23, 2012 17:50:16 GMT
I often wink when I read your posts Ian
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Post by timmy on May 25, 2012 8:57:13 GMT
While you're talking about late rule changes can someone contact Platini and get spurs put into the champs league?!
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Post by controller on May 25, 2012 10:51:44 GMT
Aha.. Solution.
Seeing as the committee screwed up by not advertising the entrants to prevent this scenario. Also allowing entrants who are ineligible, I can take Andy Lindsay's place. He isn't eligible and I am. Same standard, same team. Problem solved.
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Post by poolking100 on May 25, 2012 21:01:03 GMT
Sitting in a bar in Spain after a few vodkas reading this. The conclusions I draw are the following: the committee are blameless. It is your captains responsibility to sort things out in goodtime, however Ians solution of replacing Andy seems logical but the other players at the venue would need to agree, if they do then as Ian says problem solved. Having another vodka now. Good luck everyone!
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Post by controller on May 26, 2012 15:09:40 GMT
Don't forget my Baccy!
They are very wrong and the history of event proves it. Fill up the venues to prevent it being a nonsense comp!
In all seriousness a list of entrants is the way forward... And no I'm not gonna bring it up at the AGM. Please explain why we have only 5 & 6 at these venues? It's not the age old revenue reason is it? We all know this is crap. Most times venues have no idea the singles are taking place.
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Post by lastdamnation on May 26, 2012 15:27:38 GMT
because you want 16 venues, durrr
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Post by controller on May 26, 2012 15:58:23 GMT
OMG Really? WTF did u learn at Uni? If u stick to one rigid structure using pubs with one table then I guess you're correct (to a point). No wonder the country's in a mess ;-)
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Post by Steve McCann on May 26, 2012 16:54:24 GMT
Well, you know what Clarkson would say...
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