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Post by dad - AKA Onespin on May 29, 2012 10:57:38 GMT
Players not turning up by venue is as follows; Cambridge United SC 3 Salisbury Club 0 Hardwick 1 Hopbine 3 Fulbourn SC 3 Tev Con Club 4 The Rock 2 Fulbourn Institute 1 King St Run 2 Caldecote SC 4 Rathmore 0 CSC 0 Mickey Flynn's 3 The Med 2 Black Bull 3 Man on the Moon 2 Do you think venue location has an influence? Lookling at these figures the venue didn't matter too much (depending of course on where the players live). The Hopbine, Mickeys and CUFC are central Cambridge venues. Only 1 player didn't turn up for both Fulbourn & Hardwick.
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Post by Steve McCann on May 29, 2012 11:42:55 GMT
Though, Caldecote SC, Tev Con and Black Bull were all missing 3 or 4. In general, it depends on individuals and their circumstances. At a £2 entry fee, most captain's enter all their players (or at least all of their players that don't say they don't want to be in it). You could raise the entry fee, but the players of the pool league seem to like to have the freedom to play or not play as they desire. If you disagree with this format of competition being our Champion of Champions qualifying competition then I suggest it is discussed at the end of season GM to decide whether the Open would be more relevant. It was discussed in the past changing the 4 qualifiers to the two Open winners and two Men's Singles winners but this was voted against at a GM. Perhaps, having the Open be the sole qualifying competition (winners and runners-up) from Winter 2012/13 may be a better option? If the Men's Singles stays the way it is, then I would propose one change. For each venue used for the open, I would suggest a player from that venue who enters the comp is randomly selected and they get drawn in that venue... this will remove any confusion from landlords not being told about the competition (which can and has caused a lot of hassle in the past) and will probably an appropriate stand-in steward if the steward can't make it. This would make the organisation simpler on the day and would also make life simpler for the landlords as they would have someone they recognise in the competition. note: this is a general post to the masses, not a direct response to Garry even though I make reference to his statement in the first paragraph
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qpower
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Post by qpower on May 29, 2012 15:21:48 GMT
Yo Looks like Ian has finally given up withhis attempts to get into the Singles. Unless he wants direct entry into the last 16? By the sounds of it he had a much better night anyway. He has however opened up a debate on the future of the Men's Singles which may be worth pursuing. I do not for one second think he should have been entered, but the question is why is the turnout so low for the Singles. I am sure all of the below players had good reason not to turn up. maybe some of them can make suggestions to make the turnout better? Sean O'Boyle Darren Clarke Will Brown Wayne Martin Stephen MacDonald Dave Waghorn Nicky Wright Paul Kinnear Michael O'Boyle Lee Williams Colin Copeland Matt Bradford Levi Brown Joff Middleton Ben Turner Nick Kroenig Monty Mills Dean Stacey Martin Early Sam Moralee Rob Scott Dan Taylor Craig Whitehead Richard Nixon Ada Richardson Callum Toner Danny Kidd Savvas Kides Nathan Weekes Alex Warman Neil Snedden James Todd I am not asking players to make excuses so please do not take this personally. I am just asking why out of an entry of 86 players that only 53 turned up. Unlike the Ladies, with all 9 turning up. The Men's Singles is the most entered competition, but i would also say that percentage wise it is also has the most no shows. This leads to venues were all 6 players turn up but also venues were only 2 turn up. Does anyone have any suggestions to improve this situation or do you think it is OK as it is? Are you happy to turn up and only have one opponent or would you like a "proper" competition? Ideas may be to increase the entry fee or ban players that repeatedly don't turn up? Players not turning up by venue is as follows; Cambridge United SC 3 Salisbury Club 0 Hardwick 1 Hopbine 3 Fulbourn SC 3 Tev Con Club 4 The Rock 2 Fulbourn Institute 1 King St Run 2 Caldecote SC 4 Rathmore 0 CSC 0 Mickey Flynn's 3 The Med 2 Black Bull 3 Man on the Moon 2 Do you think venue location has an influence? venues sometimes make's peoples minds up but it din't help that you had glorious sunshine all weekend and people wanted to make the most of it and probably didn't want to waste nice drinking weather
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qpower
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Post by qpower on May 29, 2012 15:26:58 GMT
how about drawing the first round and then telling the players it has to be played within the fortnight so they have a chance of getting it played and if game result isn't text through by set date both players are removed unless one of the players lets the sec know hes tried to make good effort to arranging it then second round should have more committed players
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Post by monkey on May 29, 2012 21:34:03 GMT
Not sure if that idea above is practical.
It seems some people don't like or can't travel outside Cambridge. How about paying a premium to be guaranteed a venue inside Cambridge?
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copey1970
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Post by copey1970 on May 30, 2012 8:42:47 GMT
I am sorry for not turning up for the singles it's the first one i have missed but i had personal problems and wasn't in the right frame of mind to be playing pool so i appologise for not turning up.
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Post by Steve McCann on May 30, 2012 11:39:10 GMT
It's ok Colin, no one is pointing the finger; on this forum thread we are considering potential ways to improve the turnout. If anyone doesn't turn up it is of no concern to the rest of the players or the pool league as once you've paid your entry money you have the choice of whether to play or miss it, same as for every local competition.
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Post by controller on May 30, 2012 12:25:46 GMT
8 venues of 11 or 12. Job done.
The attendance is embarrasing.
Steve Mac and Michael O'Boyle didn't in play protest of the committees decision not to let people play who would have turned up! Not only that they were with me throughout the evening :-)
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Post by Dan on May 30, 2012 12:26:19 GMT
I am sorry for not turning up for the singles it's the first one i have missed but i had personal problems and wasn't in the right frame of mind to be playing pool so i appologise for not turning up. I'd happily pay £5 to be guaranteed a central venue. However, this is open to abuse. It effectively allows the draw to be manipulated, not that I think anyone would.
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Post by controller on May 30, 2012 12:26:35 GMT
Oh. The obvious reason is... Wait for it...
SUNDAY evening!!!!
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Post by monkey on May 30, 2012 17:37:17 GMT
Steve Mac and Michael O'Boyle didn't in play protest of the committees decision not to let people play who would have turned up! Do you just make random stuff up?
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Post by monkey on May 30, 2012 18:26:09 GMT
Not only that they were with me throughout the evening :-) I assume that is in a strictly NCIS way?
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rusty
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Post by rusty on May 30, 2012 23:29:16 GMT
Ok here i go i live in caldecote and was drawn at fulbourn ins i had a 44 mile trip there and back so for some one to say its to far out of cambridge is crap. I new it would be a hard venue but i made the effort so if u enter then be prepaired to travel 1 mile or 40 miles thats the draw
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Post by controller on May 31, 2012 11:21:13 GMT
Steve Mac and Michael O'Boyle didn't in play protest of the committees decision not to let people play who would have turned up! Do you just make random stuff up? Who me?
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Post by controller on May 31, 2012 11:23:41 GMT
Ban fulbourne and Caldecote from the league! Job done!
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Hillsy3105
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Post by Hillsy3105 on May 31, 2012 11:43:01 GMT
Yawnnnn getting boring now
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Post by monkey on May 31, 2012 12:43:26 GMT
Ok here i go i live in caldecote and was drawn at fulbourn ins i had a 44 mile trip there and back so for some one to say its to far out of cambridge is crap. I new it would be a hard venue but i made the effort so if u enter then be prepaired to travel 1 mile or 40 miles thats the draw I agree Jake. Of course, there will always be valid reasons for not being able to turn up too. However, as Dan says he spends his £2 in the hope of getting a draw he can get to and if not kisses it goodbye. I will add that Dan doesn't drive. I am sure others are in the same boat.
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Hillsy3105
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Post by Hillsy3105 on May 31, 2012 13:55:52 GMT
We have to drive 6 miles + to every away game.... Doesn't bother us in the slightest, remember its the Cambridge AREA pool league, not the Cambridge only pool league
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Post by monkey on May 31, 2012 14:03:21 GMT
We have to drive 6 miles + to every away game.... Doesn't bother us in the slightest, remember its the Cambridge AREA pool league, not the Cambridge only pool league Yes, but that is a WE. Those that don't drive can get a lift to a team match.
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Post by Craig Benstock on May 31, 2012 14:03:23 GMT
Ok here i go i live in caldecote and was drawn at fulbourn ins i had a 44 mile trip there and back so for some one to say its to far out of cambridge is crap. I new it would be a hard venue but i made the effort so if u enter then be prepaired to travel 1 mile or 40 miles thats the draw I agree Jake. Of course, there will always be valid reasons for not being able to turn up too. However, as Dan says he spends his £2 in the hope of getting a draw he can get to and if not kisses it goodbye. I will add that Dan doesn't drive. I am sure others are in the same boat. So who's going to drive this boat then?
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