Mens Singles Results

[copey1970]

tev con club

colin copeland 3 - 2 michael shipton

final
colin copeland 3 - 2 chris marchant

with only three of us turning up it was an early night
michael was very unlucky not to beat me he played very well but i managed to grind out the win.
in the final both myself and chris made plenty of mistakes and could not get to grips with the speed of the table.

[stack]

Cambridge United Result

1st Round
Ben Shouls 0 - 3 Stacey Tite
Stacey Sparkes 3 - 2 Garry Browne

Final
Stacey Sparkes 0 - 3 Stacey Tite


Also Pete McGannon won through at the Edith

[Steve Claridge]

waterbeach social club result

1st round
lee williams 3-1 nick easey

final
andy couldron 3-0 lee williams

the only winner really though was the table! never seen a roll that bad in my life! made the quality of pool poorer, wasnt really fit for a competition in my opinion!
andy deserved the win though as he dealt with it a lot better than myself and nick

[johnalanwayne]

Man on the moon:
Paul Stel 3-0 Jake Hills
John Chapman 3-1 Roger Raynor

John Chapman 3-1 Paul Stel.

[Pete]

Salisbury Club

Prelim- Rob Hogan 2-0 Harry ?

1st Round Ray Thompson 3-1 James Griffiths
Rob Hogan 3-1 Jordan Lemmon

Final Ray Thompson 3-1 Rob Hogan

[anomalous]

why are there so few people at the venues.
Not much of a comp!

[Steve Claridge]

its disgusting really! maybe the entry fee should be increased? that way only the people that intend to turn up will enter!

[dave]

Only 3 turned up at the osbourne....


Matt Foot 1-3 Steve Mccann
Dale Parson - bye

Steve Mccan 0-3 Dale Parson

[James Griffiths]

Jun 6, 2011 16:45:42 GMT Steve Claridge said:

its disgusting really! maybe the entry fee should be increased? that way only the people that intend to turn up will enter!

If you increased the fee less people would probably enter, surely if they don't turn up and they have paid it's better for those that want to play because it will be easier to get through?

[dave]

so how many turned up at each venue then?
there was 86 entries.


osborne arms 3/5 turned up

[topper]

Jun 7, 2011 21:05:06 GMT dave said:

so how many turned up at each venue then?
there was 86 entries.


osborne arms 3/5 turned up

tev con 3/6
king street 2/6
white lion 2/5

but to be fair,there is nothing the committee can do cos if people don't want to go they won't

[loopytunes]

I have been put off playing as usually get drawn in histon/ longstanton.... There is no way I'm going through the trouble of traveling there to find out no one has turned up!? Can't we keep it more central!?

[Steve McCann]

It sounds like there is a lot of support for making the men's and ladies' singles competitions more central. This is a good opportunity for those who would like to see that to come up with a good, workable proposal and it can be discussed/voted on at the next AGM/GM.

We only had 17 venues offer their pool table for the singles evening, therefore if you restricted the competition to local venues, you may have to cut it down to 8 venues... in which case, this season you could have had up to 12 people at a venue (which wouldn't work and is possible) if it was held on the one evening or you may have to hold 8 venues of less than 8 players on each of two consecutive Sundays perhaps. This is something worth thinking about.

If any change was made to ensure these competitions are held centrally, that would most likely result in the venues selected for the doubles and trebles competitions being those further afield, as each venue in the CAPL has an equal right to host competitions as it currently stands.

[Steve McCann]

That said, this is how the men's and ladies' singles have traditionally been run for as long as I can remember (not long, granted); and for the men's event, the competition has always had more entrants than any other singles competition in Cambridge... so if it ain't broke...?

[The Halifax Ringer]

Yes, let's penalise pubs even further for being out of town because a few lazy people can't be bothered to drive.

[anomalous]

I agree with loopytunes.

Why travel to play in a "comp" of 3 - on tables only fit for finger a food buffet?
Its not lazyness its lack of incentive!

Not all pubs/clubs have to be used... Why not only use venues with the best tables? That narrows it down to half at least. CSC can take the overflow!
Is the committee obligated to using every venue. it can't be about revenue. If most people are travelling they will struggle to make £20 even if all 6 turn up.
Sort it out!

[Steve McCann]

4D, I presume your comment wasn't a reply to mine?

[The Halifax Ringer]

Jun 8, 2011 11:44:18 GMT @anomalous said:

I agree with loopytunes.

Why travel to play in a "comp" of 3 - on tables only fit for finger a food buffet?
Its not lazyness its lack of incentive!

Not all pubs/clubs have to be used... Why not only use venues with the best tables? That narrows it down to half at least. CSC can take the overflow!
Is the committee obligated to using every venue. it can't be about revenue. If most people are travelling they will struggle to make £20 even if all 6 turn up.
Sort it out!

ALL pubs and clubs pay the same entry fee, all pubs and clubs have the option to request their venue be used for competitions. It is unfair for a committee to sit there and decide which venues should and should not hold events based on location.

Your post flips from the concern being the location of the venue to the quality of the tables. Which is your main concern here? Not only is it about revenue, but it's making sure that all pubs and clubs who have paid the entry fee into the league get treated equally.

Barry's point is an interesting one; Because HE can't be bothered to turn up to a venue a distance from HIS house just in case people like HIM can't make the competition means people like HIM are causing the problem HE is complaining about. Over generalised, of course, I'm not blaming Barry for his opinion, there is an element of truth in it which I have felt too.

The committee, at the end of the day, take it on good faith that everyone who enters will be able to attend their venue, it would be folly of us to think otherwise, even when in practise we know that not to be the case. In short, I feel that ALL venues within the league have the right to hold competitions (They do have to opt in to it after all) regardless of location and perceived quality of the tables.

[Steve McCann]

I agree with Matt on this that ALL venues within the league have the right to hold competitions. There is a question over whether we can manipulate things such that the competitions with CofC places on offer get to play in the perceived "better" venues.

In general, based on the number of venues availables and the number of comps / entrants we have it seems that venues get on average 2 Sunday evening comps a season... so as long as we can ensure they get them, it doesn't matter which comps they get.

There is a school of thought which says that doubles and trebles are best suited to those pubs outside of the centre of Cambridge, as it is better value (per person) for two/three people to travel as a team than individually, and those pubs should get a better trade than they would from 3-4 singles competitors.

Come on forum goers, sort it out! We want to hear your voice!

[anomalous]

Jun 8, 2011 12:34:37 GMT The Halifax Ringer said:

Jun 8, 2011 11:44:18 GMT @anomalous said:

I agree with loopytunes.

Why travel to play in a "comp" of 3 - on tables only fit for finger a food buffet?
Its not lazyness its lack of incentive!

Not all pubs/clubs have to be used... Why not only use venues with the best tables? That narrows it down to half at least. CSC can take the overflow!
Is the committee obligated to using every venue. it can't be about revenue. If most people are travelling they will struggle to make £20 even if all 6 turn up.
Sort it out!

ALL pubs and clubs pay the same entry fee, all pubs and clubs have the option to request their venue be used for competitions. It is unfair for a committee to sit there and decide which venues should and should not hold events based on location.

Your post flips from the concern being the location of the venue to the quality of the tables. Which is your main concern here? Not only is it about revenue, but it's making sure that all pubs and clubs who have paid the entry fee into the league get treated equally.

Barry's point is an interesting one; Because HE can't be bothered to turn up to a venue a distance from HIS house just in case people like HIM can't make the competition means people like HIM are causing the problem HE is complaining about. Over generalised, of course, I'm not blaming Barry for his opinion, there is an element of truth in it which I have felt too.

The committee, at the end of the day, take it on good faith that everyone who enters will be able to attend their venue, it would be folly of us to think otherwise, even when in practise we know that not to be the case. In short, I feel that ALL venues within the league have the right to hold competitions (They do have to opt in to it after all) regardless of location and perceived quality of the tables.

they surely pay a fee to enter the league? Does this now mean they have a right to hold a comp? Thats weird Don't think they care about a singles comp?
.
I think you are missing the wood for the trees... shouldn't the league running smooth be first priority?
Most of these venues either don't know they have this comp on or don't want it because 3 blokes on freeplay drinking coke (or tap water in some cases) are not exactly getting them excited about holding this at their venue.
I can see why Barry can't be bothered. Its a waste of a good evening and petrol!