Promoting Pool

[monkey]

Yo

Ths idea was emailed to me a while ago and i forgot all about it. It was now hit my conciousness again.
Our remit as a Pool League is to promote Pool. Should we as a league be sponsoring our young players.
As an example, take Jordan Lemmon. He plays in the Premier Division, plays Interleague, has played in Yarmouth and is in the County A side. What is the next step for him? Probably to go on one of the tours. Maybe Herts or South Midlands? Should the league be concerned with sponsoring Jordan to enter one of these tours by paying a percentage of the entry fee. Not all of it as i think players need some financial motivation. Others may think that as a league this is not our concern.
I used Jordan as an example. We also have other young players coming up that could benefit in future years. Dom Cooney, Ashley Scarr and if he keeps progressing then maybe Nathan Sanders.
The league is in a healthy financial position at the moment. Due largely to the work of Martin Eaton and being carried on by Stacey Tite.
I would appreciate some feedback. Positive or negative as long as it is constructive.

[P.A.U.L]

I think this is a great idea, its just such a shame that the IPA tour kills EPA membership else this would be ideal. There were still places in herts last i heard. Jordan should go

[P.A.U.L]

Jan 25, 2013 9:32:12 GMT P.A.U.L said:

I think this is a great idea, its just such a shame that the IPA tour kills EPA membership else this would be ideal. There were still places in herts last i heard. Jordan should go

Also www.epa.org.uk/event_home.php?default=c_report.php&heading=National%20Amateur%20Champs&event=nationalamateur&year=2013

[P.A.U.L]

Now I know that this probably doesn't concern me, but how about if division winners or runners up could choose to sponsor a youngers tournament involvement instead of receiving trophies. Not sure how much that would be, but it would be a nice warm feeling rather than getting another pen holder year in year out for some I expect. Opt in of course.

[poolking100]

The best way to improve the younger players is through coaching, they already have youth tournament - they need to understand and practice the key elements of the game. Thus when they do enter a tour they have more chance of progressing through the rounds.

Have a coaching workshop for a group of keen young players I belive this will benefit them the most.

[chips78]

i'd like a coaching workshop for myself

[Craig Benstock]

Personally I think any sponsorship should go to the winner of an event rather than handpicked individuals. Otherwise it's too open to criticism.

The winner of a youth singles league for example would be ideal. That way it's won over a long distance and doesn't rely on having to make a single date in order to play in it.

[Qubit]

I would rather see the league concerned with matters that involve/benefit all members as far as possible.

If theres such a lot of spare cash about perhaps every team should be equipped with a large display timing clock, easily visible to all players. This would be far more relevant and useful and to the benefit of all members of the CAPL. The rules state that a timer must be used, but currently this regularly opted out of and even when it is used, is open to abuse quite franky.

Of course im sure this will go down like a lead balloon - so let the flaming begin!

[Qubit]

Jan 25, 2013 13:27:08 GMT chips78 said:

i'd like a coaching workshop for myself

Indeed, perhaps regular subsidised coaching, available to all would be the fairest/efficient use of any spare funds. This would hopefully raise the standard overall and hence the standard of our best young players as the quality of the competition increases.

[Craig Benstock]

Jan 25, 2013 14:04:23 GMT Qubit said:

I would rather see the league concerned with matters that involve/benefit all members as far as possible.

If theres such a lot of spare cash about perhaps every team should be equipped with a large display timing clock, easily visible to all players. This would be far more relevant and useful and to the benefit of all members of the CAPL. The rules state that a timer must be used, but currently this regularly opted out of and even when it is used, is open to abuse quite franky.

Of course im sure this will go down like a lead balloon - so let the flaming begin!

Well it is a terrible idea...

[Qubit]

Jan 25, 2013 14:26:34 GMT Craig Benstock said:

Jan 25, 2013 14:04:23 GMT Qubit said:

I would rather see the league concerned with matters that involve/benefit all members as far as possible.

If theres such a lot of spare cash about perhaps every team should be equipped with a large display timing clock, easily visible to all players. This would be far more relevant and useful and to the benefit of all members of the CAPL. The rules state that a timer must be used, but currently this regularly opted out of and even when it is used, is open to abuse quite franky.

Of course im sure this will go down like a lead balloon - so let the flaming begin!

Well it is a terrible idea...

In your opinion . I honestly think its a better use of funds than the original idea. However, i do believe that regular, subsidised coaching open to all would be a better use still

[Lefty]

Jan 25, 2013 13:10:17 GMT poolking100 said:

The best way to improve the younger players is through coaching, they already have youth tournament - they need to understand and practice the key elements of the game. Thus when they do enter a tour they have more chance of progressing through the rounds.

Have a coaching workshop for a group of keen young players I belive this will benefit them the most.

Exactly Simon, this to me is exactly the way forward and i have been personally thinking about trying to set this very thing up for a while now. A bit of organisation, support from some of the more experienced players in the league and a few venues to use and this could be a great way forward.

Of course, not only would this then help to improve those young players we already have, but help to advertise the sport and bring in more new talent year after year.

[MalteseMauler]

Mr Rivers is spot on a workshop should be setup surely you wouldnt need many venues matt as it can all be facilitated down csc
The one thing i dont quite get and this might be me being stupid but why is it whenever promotion/advertising is mentioned its always associated with youngsters ? if you want to advertise the league put an advert in the local paper or pay for a poster in cambridge in the centre of town somewhere surely you would get more people joining the league that way and significantly increase awareness of the league and as a knock on effect many more youngsters would take part and with a workshop going along side this would make our league in time without doubt the strongest league in the country

[Craig Benstock]

At some point though if you want to become a better player you have to venture out from Cambridge and play with top players from other areas. That said there's no reason you can't do coaching as well. All Simon needs to do is say he'll be down CSC whatever night and is giving away coaching to whoever wants it for the cost of the lights. I'm sure he'd get instant takers.

[Craig Benstock]

Jan 25, 2013 14:04:23 GMT Qubit said:

I would rather see the league concerned with matters that involve/benefit all members as far as possible.

If theres such a lot of spare cash about perhaps every team should be equipped with a large display timing clock, easily visible to all players. This would be far more relevant and useful and to the benefit of all members of the CAPL. The rules state that a timer must be used, but currently this regularly opted out of and even when it is used, is open to abuse quite franky.

Of course im sure this will go down like a lead balloon - so let the flaming begin!

Ok, what happens when they get broke, lost or stolen?

Also, the 2nd ref needs to be able to operate the timer and move about the table. How's he gonna do that with a giant clock? Stick it on a trolley and push it around?

Also, not having a stopwatch/clock is rarely the reason people don't time frames. It's mostly because they can't be bothered. So they still wont be bothered to operate a giant clock that's stuck to the wall.

Also, it's a terrible idea

[poolking100]

Don't recall volunteering myself Craig! However 2 senior players with around 6 to 10 players would be ideal but it is important that those who attend pay great attention and really want to learn!

[shadydaz]

I am happy to contribute some technical coaching around stance, action and shot routine aspects of the approach to the game if someone else wants to undertake the shot selection, tactical and 'in play' side?

Something like the first Monday of each month (the tables are cheap). Would need 8 attendees at a fiver each to cover the cost of 4 tables.

[chips78]

Super where can I sign up

[shadydaz]

I will have a word with Tony at the club about tables and the idea in general. Then we will have to see how much interest there is...

[bruv]

Don't get it you start talking about sponsorship then the coaching aspect comes up which is a great idea but why will they have to pay for the lights if you were going to sponsor one person for a tour which costs a few hundred why can't you pay for four tables at CSC once a month and benefit 8 to 10 people