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Post by shortstuff on Jan 15, 2007 19:44:36 GMT
An understandable opinion Craig, I was just trying to make the point that it doesn't seem to be against the rules for them to play, regardless of whether or not they play in the CAPL. They wouldn't be eligible for the national finals at Yarmouth though, so it would probably be best just to play them in a handful of games to make sure we finish the season with 9 players who have played at least 50% of the matches. If they only play a handful of games, perhaps the ones against the best opposition... , then they're not taking someone else's spot for the whole season.
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chris
Should take up another sport!
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Post by chris on Jan 15, 2007 20:02:16 GMT
Inter-league Rules
Entry to the Inter-league is open to all Affiliated Leagues in Cambridgeshire and will include automatic entry to the Inter-league KO Cup. Entry fee to the Inter-league shall be £35 payable before the start of the season.
To qualify for Inter-league,players must have played a minimum of 50% of games within their League. Players must play in 5 of the 1st. 12 matches in the Inter-league to be eligiblto play in either of the last
2 matches.
Once a player has played for a team he cannot transfer to another.
All players in the Inter-league are required to be registered with the E.P.A.
To qualify players for the National Finals they must have played a minimum of 50% of matches in the Inter-league.
For KO Cup Nation Finals they must have played a minimum of 3 matches.
Team registration sheets and player registrations are to be with the County Secretary before the start of the season. These together with this list of playing rules must be forwarded immediately to the E.P.A. Secretary and the Region 4 Director so the League is recognised at National level.
Matches The League match format shall be 2 sessions of 9 frames. Total 18 frames. All matches to be played to E.P.A. World Rules, including time keeping.
World Rules wall sheet to be displayed at each venue.
Matches to start at 8pm with a table being made available to the visiting team for practice from 7.45pm. If the visiting team has not arrived by 8.15pm the home team may claim the 1st. frame, the 2nd. at 8.30pm the 3rd. at
8.45pm.
If the team has not arrived by 9.00pm it should be reported to the Inter-league Secretary.
NO GAMES CAN BE CLAIMED 14 – 0.
All matches to be played on a Monday night.
(If both Captains agree to play a fixture on another day then it must be played prior to the original fixture date).
The home side will nominate their 9 players for the 1st. session and have the first of the alternating breaks. Any number of changes of players may be made in the 2nd. session but players who play twice must stay at the same
number in both sessions.
Referees shall alternate between the teams throughout the match. For the 1st. frame the visiting side shall supply the
timing referee and the home side shall supply the game referee.
Two tables may be used for a match if agreed by both teams prior to the fixture.
In the event of a postponement of a match the postponing Captain must inform the opposing Captain and the Inter-league Secretary a minimum of 48 hours prior to the fixture. The non-offending team will be given 2 alternative dates, as fixtures allow, before the next fixture date.
A team cannot postpone a match if they have 5 or more players available.
Teams may only rearrange a maximum of 3 matches per season.
The final fixture cannot be rearranged. It may be brought forward but not played after the fixture date.
ALL MATCHES ARE TO BE PLAYED.
If a team does not turn up without giving previous notice they will be reported to the County Committee to decide a
punishment, if any.
A Maximum fine of £20 was set.
A deposit of £50.00 is to be paid by each team along side their team registration fee.
This is to be used for payments of fines (if accrued). If no fines are accrued then the money will be returned at the end
of the year.
If a team drops out during the year they will forfeit their deposit. Fines will be decided (with a maximum of £20.00) at
the discretion of the officers.
The age limit for Inter-league shall be 14 years of age. If a Captain has a player between 14 and 18years they must contact the opposing team venue at least 48 hours before the fixture to obtain permission for the youngster to enter the premises. The decision of the venue is Final.
No matches to be played on a Bank holiday.
The points structure shall be 2 points for a win 1 point for a draw. In the event of a points tie at the end of the season, the positions will be decided on frames won, if still level a play off will be arranged at a neutral venue.
Result cards are to be posted by the winning team, or the home team in the event of a draw. Cards are to be received by the Inter-league Secretary within 7 days of the match failure to post the card will be a
deducted 1 point.
More than one offence by a team is to be reported to the County Committee.
Places in the National Finals at Great Yarmouth will be automatic selection from the final Positions in the League i.e. Winners down.
Pleaes note each team will be required to nominate 9 players plus 2 reserves for the National Finals, all must be registered with the E.P.A. and have played the required 50% of games. Successful teams do not pay entry fees to the National Finals they do however have to pay for their own
accommodation.
Dress code. All teams are expected to dress to the standard they play at for the Inter-league matches smart casual wear is expected. When appearing in the National Finals all teams are expected to abide by the EPA dress code required i.e. shirt or top with collar / dark tailored trousers black shoes. Inter-league is a step up from the local Pubs / Clubs leagues and this should reflect on the dress requirements
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Post by loopytunes on Jan 16, 2007 11:32:39 GMT
sspoke to joe at the masters yesterday and he said he will commit to playing, but may not make the finals due to the world snooker championship being so close
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Post by orrible on Jan 16, 2007 11:34:01 GMT
Cambridge Elite (updated team list) Ian Norris Simon Rivers Paul Stelmaszuk Andy Lindsay Mick Conlon Neil Robertson Will Scott Michael O'Boyle Jof Middleton Joe Perry Vinny Calabrese Barry Lindsay Rob Cork Matt Goodale and Nick Parnell have been withdrawn. It's a good Team but are they All going to play 50% of League games, to qualify to play Inter-League? Many of the players look like Snooker players to me! who are very good at Pool! Your point is???
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Post by orrible on Jan 16, 2007 12:25:55 GMT
Why was Joe at the Masters. I didn't think he was playing...
Will someone please tell me why we have to run another bloomin league to qualify??? Whay can't it be a knockout like other (sane) leagues?
We'll never get a winning side at this rate....
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Post by shortstuff on Jan 16, 2007 12:31:02 GMT
Why was Joe at the Masters. I didn't think he was playing... Will someone please tell me why we have to run another bloomin league to qualify??? Whay can't it be a knockout like other (sane) leagues? We'll never get a winning side at this rate.... It's just the same as County - you play all year in the regional league, and the winner(s) get to play in the national interleague / intercounty finals in Yarmouth.
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Post by orrible on Jan 16, 2007 12:38:46 GMT
i don't think you have to qualify as a "league" tho? I may be wrong but i think it is up to the county committee how we select our teams....
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Post by Craig Benstock on Jan 16, 2007 13:20:30 GMT
I would be bothered if Joe or Neil, or anyone for that matter, didn't play any local league games, a handful of superleage games and then went on to represent 'Cambridge' in Yarmouth.
Winning the trophy at Yarmouth wont put Cambridge on the map if we're living in a false economy of talent.
It concerns me a great deal if you intend to falsify their names on to cards, or slip them through a loophole of the rules. It's clear that this competition is supposed to be for pool players who play in local leagues. There are plenty of other competitions they could enter instead that is not based on this.
I think your enthusiasm to win the trophy is misplaced. If you can't compile a winning team from the best 'Pool' players in Cambridge, then I think you'd be better off looking to develop the potential talent over a few seasons, rather than bringing in a few 'ringers' as a short-cut. Either that, or convince Neil & Joe to take up pool.
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Post by orrible on Jan 16, 2007 13:55:15 GMT
Well. I resent you saying that any of us will be falsifying cards. Where have you got your facts from? I do beleive you are making wild accusations. Not a good idea. The team will be kosher, whether you like it or not. Neil & Joe will be available to their teams and will play when their snooker allows it. You have a snooker player in your team do you not? Neil & Joe love the game and they live in Cambridge. So where is the false economy? Mark Selby plays Pool and is World champion... is he false? Should he not play because he is a top snooker player? I don't give a rats arse who the best players in CAPL (are in the way you mean)! I want a team that is capable of winning, not just showing up and making up the numbers. I actually wouldn't mind having a drink on the Saturday night (yarmouth) knowing i have more Pool to play on the Sunday... If you know of anyone who is a better Pool player than Neil or Joe that isn't already spoken for, then please let me know? I agree with most of your comments (usually) Craig but even by my standards, you have crossed the line here!
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Post by orrible on Jan 16, 2007 13:59:14 GMT
Dale is pleased to be playing against the Elite team. He isn't afraid of the battle and wants to play against the names we have. I'm suprised you are not looking forward to playing this line up?
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Post by stelmagic on Jan 16, 2007 14:05:43 GMT
From what I gather all the players were happy to participate in the Monday night superleague matches its only the rather strange ruling that you must play 50% on a Thursday night that has caused the problem.
I understand the intention behind the ruling was to stop superleague teams selecting the best from all the surrounding counties for the finals not to stop players who can play superleague matches but are not available for standard league matches.
Have to say I disagree too about misplaced enthusiasm a Cambridge team doing well in a national event would attract players into the league regardless of who is the side this would raise the standard of the local league and would also help develop the potential talent that is there already.
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Post by loopytunes on Jan 16, 2007 14:07:14 GMT
I would be bothered if Joe or Neil, or anyone for that matter, didn't play any local league games, a handful of superleage games and then went on to represent 'Cambridge' in Yarmouth. Winning the trophy at Yarmouth wont put Cambridge on the map if we're living in a false economy of talent. It concerns me a great deal if you intend to falsify their names on to cards, or slip them through a loophole of the rules. It's clear that this competition is supposed to be for pool players who play in local leagues. There are plenty of other competitions they could enter instead that is not based on this. I think your enthusiasm to win the trophy is misplaced. If you can't compile a winning team from the best 'Pool' players in Cambridge, then I think you'd be better off looking to develop the potential talent over a few seasons, rather than bringing in a few 'ringers' as a short-cut. Either that, or convince Neil & Joe to take up pool. sorry craig but neil and joe are 2 of the best pool players in cambridge. dnt understand what ur on about here mate. lol
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Post by loopytunes on Jan 16, 2007 14:08:57 GMT
joe amongst other snooker players go to the masters to support there mates ian. but no he isn't playin in it this yr.
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Post by orrible on Jan 16, 2007 14:11:31 GMT
The Elite team has added some more:
1 Ian Norris 2 Simon Rivers 3 Paul Stelmaszuk 4 Will Scott 5 Mick Conlon 6 Jof Middleton 7 Andy Lindsay 8 Michael O'Boyle 9 Neil Robertson 10 Barry Lindsay 11 Rob Cork 12 Joe Perry 13 Jim Munnelly 14 Matt Bradford 15 Vinny Calabrese
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Post by orrible on Jan 16, 2007 14:16:29 GMT
joe amongst other snooker players go to the masters to support there mates ian. but no he isn't playin in it this yr. I'm free this week. If there is a ticket going let me know?
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Post by stelmagic on Jan 16, 2007 14:20:04 GMT
thurdsday night is when the melbourne machine next plays lets cancel the league night and all go to Wembley lol ;D
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Post by Craig Benstock on Jan 16, 2007 14:21:44 GMT
I'm not doubting their ability. I'm questioning whether they will be eligible to play in Yarmouth.
Unless they start playing more local pool, I don't believe they should be on the team.
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Post by stelmagic on Jan 16, 2007 14:24:33 GMT
I have been in the position of being overlooked, or my face not fitting when I first came on to the Pool scene. If I wasn't good enough I would have understood but I was playing extremely well and was better than half the squad. I was new and it was cliquey. It is not the case here: If you are good enough, you are in! Simple as that. Even the face that shouldn't fit do, because the Pool players of Cambs aren't big "I AM'S." Richard Wharton??
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Post by AndyG on Jan 16, 2007 14:24:45 GMT
thurdsday night is when the melbourne machine next plays lets cancel the league night and all go to Wembley lol ;D I'll be there on Saturday for the semi's, be great if he got through
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Post by Craig Benstock on Jan 16, 2007 14:32:07 GMT
I would have loved to, but I've committed to play for another team now.
If it was an open entry competition with no player restrictions then I wouldn't have an argument about Joe or Neil.
But this comp is not for players who do not play for a local league.
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