A tad too far in my opinion

[P.A.U.L]

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A little OoO in my opinion

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[The Halifax Ringer]

Ban them!

[Hillsy3105]

Has some one been finger painting on it?

[welshyboyo]

I thought the "black" was gold at The Run now?

Also, I didn't think you were at The Run last night, Paul?

[bruv]

didnt think gary browne was playing at the run last night lol

[Steve McCann]

Has he just chalked up his hand for every shot? I doubt it's paint as Martin would surely have kicked them out of the pub for damaging his property.

[bruv]

its talc u plonker

[Craig Benstock]

That table looks like it wants to slit its own wrists

[poolboy]

Had sympathy for Moon A when they had the trouble with the team split a few seasons ago. They lost it all last week with them throwing that talc around the table all night. If Div 7 teams can play on a black table without problems, I would have thought players of that standard could cope. If that is how they generally behave I can see why the rest of the team left them.

How would they like it if teams did that at their pub? It was a complete lack of respect. Only ever seen Mick at a few finals nights and he always came across as a nice bloke but he was an embarrasment to cambridge pool that night with his behaviour, along with another one of the team who was especially obnoxious. They really should know better. I'd have been upset if my kids acted like that, although it must be said that some of the rest of the team didn't look to happy with what was going on. Well done to the run for not rising to it, keeping their cool soundly beating them though.

[Darren Edmonds]

There are more pictures than above, perhaps they should all be posted?

Whether it was done as a lighthearted bit of fun or not, the fact is the almost new cloth at the run has been ruined. I hope Martin gets it reclothed and forwards the bill onto the committee. The CAPL can pay for the reclothing and then reclaim the money as they see fit.

[schmack]

Jun 19, 2012 9:14:18 GMT Darren Edmonds said:

There are more pictures than above, perhaps they should all be posted?

Whether it was done as a lighthearted bit of fun or not, the fact is the almost new cloth at the run has been ruined. I hope Martin gets it reclothed and forwards the bill onto the committee. The CAPL can pay for the reclothing and then reclaim the money as they see fit.

i can only assume this is a poorly made attempt at a joke darren?

why on earth should the bill be sent to the committee? i can assure you the effort that has gone into stabilising the finances of the CAPL over the last 2-3 years will not, and should not, be put towards reclothing a table at a specific bar damaged by the events of a specific incident, however misguided it may have been

why is it necessary to post all the other photos as well? no complaint has been received by the premier divisional secretary (me) nor the committee either on the night in question nor since

adding fuel to the fire and ruffling feathers in a situation that does not concern anyone else other than those DIRECTLY affected is very childish

if a complaint is made i assure you it will be dealt with accordingly. until then stop stirring


i also refer to the post above regarding the split - i think there was more to it than that and conjecture and casting aspertions is not really doing anyone any good

[The Halifax Ringer]

Why let facts get in the way of a good moan?

[Darren Edmonds]

I've no idea why Martin has not made a complaint, I assumed that'd be the first thing he'd do. Still, I think some actions deserve intervention regardless.

From the single photo, perhaps it's not obvious the cloth is ruined, hence my suggestion to post more.

My suggestion was not for the CAPL to be out of pocket for this, but let's be realistic. If Martin pays £150 to get his table reclothed and forwards the receipt to those responsible, will they pay up quickly? The committee have the power to ban the team and players until the reclothing costs are paid.

[schmack]

Jun 19, 2012 10:01:11 GMT Darren Edmonds said:

I've no idea why Martin has not made a complaint, I assumed that'd be the first thing he'd do. Still, I think some actions deserve intervention regardless.

From the single photo, perhaps it's not obvious the cloth is ruined, hence my suggestion to post more.

My suggestion was not for the CAPL to be out of pocket for this, but let's be realistic. If Martin pays £150 to get his table reclothed and forwards the receipt to those responsible, will they pay up quickly? The committee have the power to ban the team and players until the reclothing costs are paid.

has any of this actually occurred?

is the cloth ruined? are you basing these judgments on photos or have you seen it first hand? is the table getting reclothed?

what goes on between the two teams is nothing to do with the committee - surely you can see that?


are there any other financial wrangles in the league you would like us to deal with? seriously, where would it end? the CAPL cannot be held financially accountable for people's individual actions during a match. disciplinary action yes; covering cost for table covering - no

i must say this is only my opinion and not that of the committee as a whole

in addition i do symapthise with martin with regards to this situation

i am however told that it was all met with good humour at the time from all players in both teams. can you confirm this darren? or are you basing all this comotion upon what you think should happen based on how you would react?

i wont say any more on this ridiculous matter

[Dylan Palmer]

i'm playing there next week thursday, if i lose both my games due to the talc....can i claim my transport & beer money back?

[Steve McCann]

I think that if damage was done to the cloth, then Martin would deserve compensation and I believe that Darren is right that the CAPL would be obligated either to step in completely (paying and then reclaiming from the offending team) or at the least to place sanctions against the offending team until compensation has been paid.

As it happens, it is very likely that the talc will have been brushed off and there will be no issues with the table going forward; but Darren's point is valid even if there is a presumption that the cloth is completely and utterly ruined.

While all players are responsible for their own actions, should the CAPL as a league expect other teams to suffer the same fate quietly (twice a season) without doing anything?

[Darren Edmonds]

The next step is for Martin, I just wanted this topic to have a bit more limelight as I think it's important that it is resolved and not just swept under the carpet and forgotten about.

Let me revise ruined. I don't believe you can get talc out by brushing and gentle vacuuming alone. Whether professionally cleaned, or replaced, there is a reasonable cost putting the cloth back to a state before the match took place.

[poolking100]

Knowing Martin as I do, If this was an issue we would have heard from him by now! Obviously no one involved has a problem so the whole thread is pointless!

[schmack]

this is definately my last point


this has been discussed between the teams already days ago. everything is fine between everyone and there is no issue to discuss. was the table dirty on the team leaving the premises? please feel free to find out..............

it saddens me that people feel the need to slate teams/people etc on a public forum whilst hiding behind a computer screen. i assume you will be voicing your concerns regarding this siutation in person when the time arises.

just because the CAPL committee has the "power" (previous post) doesnt mean it need to be excercised at the whim of somebodies opinion. we simply dont, nor should, work like that.

as a DEMOCRATICALLY elected committee it is our purpose to obtain all pertinent facts and take the situation forward based on those facts. this has happened in this case

it saddens me that the comfort of a computer screen affords people the bravery to cast aspertions on others whilst not being in possesion of all relevant facts

i suggest this topic is left alone as it has been concluded to the satisfaction of all people DIRECTLY invlolved in the situation

[dobbin]

I too believe the event and evening was met with good humour.

Our own actions no doubt cost us a few frames due to lack of concentration.

We were deservedly well beaten and I believe gracious in defeat.

Before leaving the Run Speedy thoroughly brushed the table to remove any marks and it was left in a condition better than when we arrived.