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Post by ejac on Feb 10, 2014 13:44:55 GMT
I am hoping that you might be able to clear something up in my mind re a foul snooker. In the attachment, assume that you are yellow. From where the white is, you would be able to hit the yellow without touching either of the reds so it wouldn't be called a foul snooker, but if you look at the definition of a snooker ''1.Definition: A player is Snookered when it is impossible to play the finest cut possible on both sides of any of that player's own Colour by way of a "straight - line" shot. Snookering an opponent is not a foul'' Does that mean the extremes of the yellow> In which case, this would be a foul snooker. Any direction would be much appreciated. Attachments:
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Post by Darren Edmonds on Feb 10, 2014 14:37:27 GMT
See www.epa.org.uk/snookers.phpYour diagram isn't a foul snooker. Red on right hand side is close to obstructing, but wouldn't prevent the finest cut on the yellow. It's the finest cut from where the cue ball lies, not the most right hand edge of the yellow that is important. |
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Post by ejac on Feb 10, 2014 15:21:26 GMT
Darren cheers for that, those diagrams do the trick, we were discussing this at length the other day and none of us could come up with a difinitive answer.
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Lefty
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Post by Lefty on Feb 10, 2014 16:50:20 GMT
The wording is slightly diff for a foul snooker and actually says the finest cut possible in a stright line, this means the angle of finest cut is reduced as the cue ball gets closer to an object ball.
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Hillsy3105
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Post by Hillsy3105 on May 14, 2014 9:50:30 GMT
 I played a deliberate foul and left my opponent this shot, but the White was also touching the red, does foul snooker apply to this? Or as it's touching his yellow is that classed as being able to play the thinnest edge of both sides of his ball so no foul snooker? |
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Post by orrible on May 14, 2014 10:30:07 GMT
Darren cheers for that, those diagrams do the trick, we were discussing this at length the other day and none of us could come up with a difinitive answer. Really? LMFAO |
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Post by Dan on May 14, 2014 21:49:39 GMT
Jake, I would say no foul snooker.
If you leave your opponent touching their ball then that's the only and therefore finest angle they can play.
I may be wrong though
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Post by kezhills on May 14, 2014 22:20:44 GMT
Jake, I would say no foul snooker. If you leave your opponent touching their ball then that's the only and therefore finest angle they can play. I may be wrong though He was playing me dan, was a strange one because we had never come across it and wasn't sure at all. Obviously no foul snooker on white touching my ball but with his ball involved it pretty much left me no shot at all. |
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Post by timmy on May 15, 2014 8:51:11 GMT
Did you still win the frame?
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Post by Rob Hogan on May 15, 2014 9:23:52 GMT
He was playing me dan, was a strange one because we had never come across it and wasn't sure at all. Obviously no foul snooker on white touching my ball but with his ball involved it pretty much left me no shot at all. May not have been helpful but you do have the option to play straight into his touching ball in that situation, as long as you're playing away from your own. |
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Post by kezhills on May 15, 2014 13:05:10 GMT
Did you still win the frame? Jake won lol was only a usual Tuesday practice |
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Post by kezhills on May 15, 2014 13:06:51 GMT
He was playing me dan, was a strange one because we had never come across it and wasn't sure at all. Obviously no foul snooker on white touching my ball but with his ball involved it pretty much left me no shot at all. May not have been helpful but you do have the option to play straight into his touching ball in that situation, as long as you're playing away from your own. I think if I played the shot into his ball the white would of gone into the middle bag, but that's handy to know for another time cheers. |
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Post by fbi on May 16, 2014 14:03:53 GMT
View AttachmentI played a deliberate foul and left my opponent this shot, but the White was also touching the red, does foul snooker apply to this? Or as it's touching his yellow is that classed as being able to play the thinnest edge of both sides of his ball so no foul snooker? You can't be snookered if you are touching your own colour. |
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Post by fbi on May 16, 2014 14:05:16 GMT
He was playing me dan, was a strange one because we had never come across it and wasn't sure at all. Obviously no foul snooker on white touching my ball but with his ball involved it pretty much left me no shot at all. May not have been helpful but you do have the option to play straight into his touching ball in that situation, as long as you're playing away from your own. That would be a foul though! |
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Post by Newbie on May 16, 2014 14:47:34 GMT
Why would it be a foul? what it be deemed as a push shot?
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Post by fbi on May 16, 2014 14:51:38 GMT
You cannot play into a touching ball without it being deemed a push shot!.
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Post by monkey on May 16, 2014 18:04:59 GMT
For once I believe you are wrong FBI. If you are touching more than one ball and one of them is your colour then you can play into the opposition's touching ball and it is not a foul. www.epa.org.uk/wrules.phpPleas see section S, point 2, part d, |
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dave
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Post by dave on May 16, 2014 18:07:29 GMT
100% correct monkey
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Post by fbi on May 17, 2014 0:11:36 GMT
I stand corrected. You learn something new every day!.
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