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Post by MalteseMauler on Jun 25, 2013 9:36:01 GMT
Yo. The constitution does not have a specific number of walkovers allowed. Maybe we should? I don't know? The most I can remember is 5 from the Rosemary Branch (B) in Winter 2009/10 season in Division 7. As far as I am aware they did not ask for a postponement. Mickey Flynn's C did and we allowed it under exceptional circumstances. ok thanks monkey appreciate the info |
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Post by MalteseMauler on Jun 25, 2013 9:54:25 GMT
I just went on to the the thread for agm proposals and it doesn't allow us to start a thread or post on it, should that be the case or is it a fault with that link ? I was gonna start a thread to see whether anyone thinks a limit on walkovers should be applied to the constitution as i didn't think it was appropriate to carry it on in this thread
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Post by schmack on Jun 25, 2013 12:12:25 GMT
I just went on to the the thread for agm proposals and it doesn't allow us to start a thread or post on it, should that be the case or is it a fault with that link ? I was gonna start a thread to see whether anyone thinks a limit on walkovers should be applied to the constitution as i didn't think it was appropriate to carry it on in this thread james on the screen it tells you that it is an information thread only, where we intend to publish the AGM/GM proposals prior to discussion at the AGM/GM it also says should you wish to discuss any proposals (and also if you want to suggest any) this should be done in the general section therefore this section is for reference only and people are invited to use the general thread for discussion |
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Post by The Iceman on Jun 25, 2013 12:24:23 GMT
Mauler - maybe write into the committe and put a suggestion forward for the agm about the number of walkovers allowed per season?
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Post by MalteseMauler on Jun 25, 2013 13:44:25 GMT
ok cheers steve
yeah i thought about that paul but then i figured there would be no point writing the proposal etc if there wasnt any support for it so i thought i would float the idea first
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Post by kezhills on Jun 25, 2013 18:16:47 GMT
I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for 'the six bells' It's only been on 2 occasions that they have not been able to forfil league games, clearly because they couldn't play rather than couldn't be bothered. They did after all win promotion last season so I'm sure they will complete the season. Yet.... Mr mauler On two occasions because of this team/venue you have Asked for thoughts of others and would like things changed in the constitution. In another thread you moaned about the table/playing area stating that certain venues shouldn't be allowed. And secondly because this team have given TWO! walkovers, you want something changed so a team can be kicked out if they have to many. I know you have said in previous posts they are great guys etc.. So it's not personal from your half. But it's funny that no other team are voicing an opinion from your league apart from you, the only team that they have taken points off.  I'd worry about your own team and getting points to stay up. Or even enough points for promotion, where as you well know the venues tend to have lovely tables/ playing areas and hardly any walk overs. Enjoy the rest of the season Cheers |
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Post by Soulman on Jun 25, 2013 19:36:20 GMT
I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for 'the six bells' It's only been on 2 occasions that they have not been able to forfil league games, clearly because they couldn't play rather than couldn't be bothered. They did after all win promotion last season so I'm sure they will complete the season. Yet.... Mr mauler On two occasions because of this team/venue you have Asked for thoughts of others and would like things changed in the constitution. In another thread you moaned about the table/playing area stating that certain venues shouldn't be allowed. And secondly because this team have given TWO! walkovers, you want something changed so a team can be kicked out if they have to many. I know you have said in previous posts they are great guys etc.. So it's not personal from your half. But it's funny that no other team are voicing an opinion from your league apart from you, the only team that they have taken points off. I'd worry about your own team and getting points to stay up. Or even enough points for promotion, where as you well know the venues tend to have lovely tables/ playing areas and hardly any walk overs. Enjoy the rest of the season Cheers |
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Post by Soulman on Jun 25, 2013 20:05:15 GMT
Ha Ha - Perhaps Mauler could deal with all his gripes in one proposal: Punishment for too little room round the table, more severe one for too little room and a Sh**e table, even tougher sanctions for too little room, Sh**e table and giving 2 walkovers, and a ban for life for too little room, Sh**e table, 2 walkovers and you have more than 5 Bells in the name of the venue? |
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Post by Soulman on Jun 25, 2013 20:47:40 GMT
Putting my serious head on (very under used!) I can fully understand Mauler's concerns, but I don't think it would be sensible to introduce a set punishment for a fixed number of walkovers as each situation is different and needs to be treated on its merits taking all the available information into account - it is not possible or desirable to do this on a forum, and is what we have a Committee for.
The same goes for poor tables/lack of room etc. The Committee will make a judgement, taking into account views expressed (on the forum as well as elsewhere I am sure) as to whether the aims of encouraging Pool playing in the Cambridge area is outweighed by any shortcomings of a venue or its team's ability to play some of its matches. As to the possibility of such scenarios that Mauler raises as a team giving a walkover every other week, then it is best to look at precedent to discover how likely this is. I don't think that walkovers in general have been such a bad problem that the Committee haven't been able to deal with them adequately.
I do think that the Six Bells deserve the understanding of all teams, and I would not want to see us expelling or punishing teams that can't play some matches due to exceptional circumstances - although I think that the Committee needs to push for an "exceptional circumstances" postponement, rather than a walkover wherever possible.
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Post by MalteseMauler on Jun 25, 2013 21:58:28 GMT
I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for 'the six bells' It's only been on 2 occasions that they have not been able to forfil league games, clearly because they couldn't play rather than couldn't be bothered. They did after all win promotion last season so I'm sure they will complete the season. Yet.... Mr mauler On two occasions because of this team/venue you have Asked for thoughts of others and would like things changed in the constitution. In another thread you moaned about the table/playing area stating that certain venues shouldn't be allowed. And secondly because this team have given TWO! walkovers, you want something changed so a team can be kicked out if they have to many. I know you have said in previous posts they are great guys etc.. So it's not personal from your half. But it's funny that no other team are voicing an opinion from your league apart from you, the only team that they have taken points off. I'd worry about your own team and getting points to stay up. Or even enough points for promotion, where as you well know the venues tend to have lovely tables/ playing areas and hardly any walk overs. Enjoy the rest of the season Cheers i dont know if any others from my division come on this forum tbh  if you think for one second i give two s**ts as too my teams the only one they took points off then you dont know me at all in another thread i mentioned that some tables/venues are significantly poor yes six bells does spring to mind again certainly this isnt only my opinion even a couple lads from there own team hate the venue in fact on the night we played they moaned about it more than me or anybody from my team and we gave up all hope having a proper game and had a few drinks and a laugh which in my opinion i would rather do anyway but dont get me wrong i have my opinions like anybody else and i will voice them just like i would encourage others to voice there opinions not enough people use this forum really it can be a very effective tool if used oh and the walkover thing what is the big deal i asked one question as to if there is a limit as to how many walkovers a team can give at the request of a couple of my team mates actually unfortunately this season six bells have had to give two due to unavoidable circumstances, i know from previous seasons a team i wont mention who i know the committee are well aware off who secured enough points to stay up and then didnt bother showing for three or four of there games in the end because they couldnt be relegated there was no good reason for it they just did it this was a few seasons a go however and now i dont think they could get away with it but other teams in other seasons have had to give walkovers its always gonna happen because thats life but i do think you have to look at the bigger picture after all the capl is bigger than me you or any one team |
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Post by MalteseMauler on Jun 25, 2013 22:03:13 GMT
Putting my serious head on (very under used!) I can fully understand Mauler's concerns, but I don't think it would be sensible to introduce a set punishment for a fixed number of walkovers as each situation is different and needs to be treated on its merits taking all the available information into account - it is not possible or desirable to do this on a forum, and is what we have a Committee for. The same goes for poor tables/lack of room etc. The Committee will make a judgement, taking into account views expressed (on the forum as well as elsewhere I am sure) as to whether the aims of encouraging Pool playing in the Cambridge area is outweighed by any shortcomings of a venue or its team's ability to play some of its matches. As to the possibility of such scenarios that Mauler raises as a team giving a walkover every other week, then it is best to look at precedent to discover how likely this is. I don't think that walkovers in general have been such a bad problem that the Committee haven't been able to deal with them adequately. I do think that the Six Bells deserve the understanding of all teams, and I would not want to see us expelling or punishing teams that can't play some matches due to exceptional circumstances - although I think that the Committee needs to push for an "exceptional circumstances" postponement, rather than a walkover wherever possible. i really have no interest in going over table quality that was never anything to do with this thread so i think this thread should be kept on point with all due respect. i like your suggestion about an exceptional circumstances postponement it makes a lot of sense and is a very good thought i would support that and im pretty sure most would good shout |
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