Joe
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Post by Joe on Jun 19, 2011 23:12:33 GMT
prelim isaac 2-0 salisbury csc c 2-0 salisbury semi csc c 2-3 moon isaac 3-2 caldecotte final moon 3-1 isaac
Table could be better described as a golf green. It rolled so much that it got to the stage when Dan Kidd summed it up by saying that you were actually relieved when you didnt have to have visit the table as clearing up with just one visit was nigh on impossible and impossible if you had balls close to the rail. Final finished at 11.40. If Ronnie o sullivan was playing he would have struggled to finish much sooner.
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Post by anomalous on Jun 19, 2011 23:15:52 GMT
I bet the venue is used again!
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Joe
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Post by Joe on Jun 19, 2011 23:17:17 GMT
Venue was waterbeach sorry. It shouldnt be if they cant sort it out. It was a total farce.
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Post by smeagol on Jun 20, 2011 6:42:09 GMT
Hardwick:
prelims: Sills/Jenkins 2-0 Pudneyx2 Hills/Jenkins 2-0 Lemmon/Wong Semis: Sills/Jenkins 3-2 Coombes/Davies Hills Jenkins 3-2 Chester/Shipp Final: Sills/Jenkins 3-0 Hills/Jenkins
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chips78
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Post by chips78 on Jun 20, 2011 8:42:14 GMT
Hardwick event was good. We got to the final and then got thoroughly humped
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Matt B
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Post by Matt B on Jun 20, 2011 9:13:41 GMT
Fulbourn SSC
Prelims
Burton/Chapman 2-1 Moralee/Parson Todd/Schwarz 2-1 Browne/Parnwell
KO
Sparkes/Griffiths 3-1 Clasby/Clasby Burton/Chapman 3-2 Todd/Schwarz
Final
Burton/Chapman 3-2 Sparkes/Griffiths
Truth be told we should never have won that venue, James somehow followed the white in after the black at 2-2 to gift us a place in the final. We were also behind at every stage of every game, winning 2-1 from 1-0 down in the prelim, 3-2 from 1-0 and 2-1 down in the KO and the same again in the final. That said one quality clearance each from myself and john in the final at 2-1 down got us through. Must do better!
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Post by thebacker on Jun 20, 2011 9:19:45 GMT
Salisbury Club
Winners: S Thompson & F Laing
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Post by Steve Claridge on Jun 20, 2011 11:57:02 GMT
Venue was waterbeach sorry. It shouldnt be if they cant sort it out. It was a total farce. it was the same when i played the singles there so i know what you mean. i was later told the table was the wrong way round!
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Post by Steve McCann on Jun 20, 2011 15:58:49 GMT
Full results of the Men's Doubles:
Mickey Flynn's - Andy Plumb / Paul Brasnett Hardwick - Graham Sills / Chris Jenkins Salisbury - Steve Thompson / Finlay Laing Cricketers (closed, so played at CSC) - Ben Clements / Shaun Leader Queen Edith - Richard Nixon / Carl McDonald Fulbourn SSC - Matt Burton / Johnny Chapman Waterbeach - Mick Conlon / Danny Kidd Tev Con - Pete McGannon / Dave King
Well done to all involved, the 2nd round in on Sunday 7th August (not the 19th July as posted on the main website). The draw will be performed and published in due time.
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Post by monkey on Jun 20, 2011 23:18:22 GMT
I understand there was some controversy at Mickey Flynn's .
Here is what the rules state.
Player (or players partner in doubles) breaking down, or putting away, cue. This is a loss of frame foul.
I am disappointed that some that should know better claimed that as it was not his turn next it did not count.
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Hillsy3105
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Post by Hillsy3105 on Jun 21, 2011 9:50:25 GMT
Queen eidith Pre lim. Liam Carey / Jake hills 2.0 Andy Laflin / Matt jones Semis. John Pell / Julian Fussinger 2.3 Richard Nixon / Carl McDonald Liam Carey / Jake hills 3.1 Lee Williams / Colin Copeland Final. Richard Nixon / Carl McDonald 3.1 Liam Carey / Jake Hills
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Post by anomalous on Jun 21, 2011 14:02:22 GMT
I understand there was some controversy at Mickey Flynn's . Here is what the rules state. Player (or players partner in doubles) breaking down, or putting away, cue. This is a loss of frame foul. I am disappointed that some that should know better claimed that as it was not his turn next it did not count. It takes someone "special" to claim it though.
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Post by topper on Jun 21, 2011 19:15:23 GMT
I understand there was some controversy at Mickey Flynn's . Here is what the rules state. Player (or players partner in doubles) breaking down, or putting away, cue. This is a loss of frame foul. I am disappointed that some that should know better claimed that as it was not his turn next it did not count. firstly there was a bit of coaching from paul brasnett when andy was at the table mid visit,as the rules state a first and final warning should have been given but paul and andy just gave there opponents 2 visits the ruling which i think they were more than fair about Coaching: - During a frame, a player is required to play without receiving any advice from other persons relating to the playing of the frame. Should a team member or bone-fide supporter of a player offer advice, the referee will issue a "First and Final Warning" to that person that a repetition will result in the player being penalised via a Standard Foul. Because it may not always be possible for the Referee to hear if a statement made to a player is advice, the referee may issue the First and Final Warning on the grounds that any statement made to a player, other than general barracking, is deemed to be coaching. In a tournament setting, a First and Final warning may be given once only, before the commencement of the day's play as a block warning to all players and spectators. then if either in the epa rules or the world govening body of 8 ball pool or even your(capl)rules that clearly state that un screwing a cue is loss of frame then i stand corrected and it must be clear in black and white otherwise why are people getting involved in something that they didn't see
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Post by ruthless on Jun 22, 2011 9:26:38 GMT
It was made very clear to me at the captains meeting at the beginning of the season that the "first and final warning" rule did not apply this season, meaning that coaching results in an immediate foul. This was clearly stated at the div 5 captains meeting. I take it the same was said at all the others too? Can anyone confirm that this policy is in place?
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Post by schmack on Jun 22, 2011 9:45:49 GMT
Correct
This was brought up at the GM prior to the start of this season. A first and final warning was given at this point by me. All teams should attend the GM so “we weren’t there” does not cover it
It was also delivered to ALL captains at the captains meetings. Again ALL captains should have attended
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Post by anomalous on Jun 22, 2011 10:43:49 GMT
how can a warning be given without an infringement. Whats the point in having and initial warning? Very odd.
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Post by Steve McCann on Jun 22, 2011 10:57:16 GMT
In county pool they always give a first and final warning at the beginning of each county Sunday without any infringement occurring and therefore the CAPL have followed that precedent as it was called for at the GM.
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Post by schmack on Jun 22, 2011 11:21:30 GMT
how can a warning be given without an infringement. Whats the point in having and initial warning? Very odd. a warning can be given before an infringment - of course it can. otherwise it would be called a punishment if only given after something happened were you at the GM? did you have any constructive suggestions to the problems that arose? do you even know what those problems were? have you played county? (i think you have!!!), ever played at yarmouth (and can remember it?!) if so you will have been standing there when the announcement was made? coaching is cheating. people should not need a warning after being caught cheating that what they did was cheating so that if they decided that they wanted to cheat again they would have a foul called on them - if they were caught
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Post by ruthless on Jun 22, 2011 12:19:24 GMT
I would also like some clarification on this point. It would be great if you could explain which of the rules we are to follow, and which we can ignore.
We are a bit 'special' in division 5 apparently and would benfit from understanding whether fouls are fouls or not.
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Post by anomalous on Jun 22, 2011 13:01:44 GMT
why don't you just say there will be no warning? I'ts like my boss saying every morning "I know youve done nothing yet but if you do, i'll sack you for whatever rule you break." Slightly odd.
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