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Post by stelmagic on Nov 28, 2008 0:18:15 GMT
who has arranged the meeting if it is unofficial ?? Its a few of the players getting together to have a chat its not a conspiracy against anyone or trying to do things behind anyone's back call it an ideas night!! Wish I had not said anything now
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Post by TheDisher on Nov 28, 2008 8:04:00 GMT
who has arranged the meeting if it is unofficial ?? Its a few of the players getting together to have a chat its not a conspiracy against anyone or trying to do things behind anyone's back call it an ideas night!! Wish I had not said anything now Sorry Stel was not having a dig, think its a good idea before an AGM, can you give me more details, venue, time
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Post by orrible on Nov 28, 2008 13:49:15 GMT
who has arranged the meeting if it is unofficial ?? Its a few of the players getting together to have a chat its not a conspiracy against anyone or trying to do things behind anyone's back call it an ideas night!! Wish I had not said anything now It's a coup ;D
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Post by Craig Benstock on Nov 28, 2008 14:39:48 GMT
Because the question has been asked, I have provided a few suggestions/comments below.
Just incase any of this is read out of context, I should make clear that none of this is intended to be anything but helpful:
Trial System? Doesn't matter how committed you are to the County cause, sometimes a player simply can't make the trial date and therefore is unable to trial. Harder still when it is 2 weekends in a row like when I trialed. Currently this is worked around by bringing in 'known' quality players when the team is struggling for numbers, but it can be a bit of a 'backdoor'. One perhaps novel idea could be to 'tie in' local leagues. For example, as well as a trials day, you could offer a county place to the highest ranked player (or 2 highest ranked players) in the CAPL rankings (with the place going to the next person down if they already play county, or turn down the offer)? Just throwing the idea out there.
Venue? CSC are expanding their pool room, and investing in pool. See no reason to move, but then again, it is my 'local'. Would changing venue gain more committed players than it would lose?
Tables to be played on? Personally I think playing next to the bar is an awful idea because it's too much of a busy area, lots of distrations, and very limited space. I would also think that it damages the amount of takings, as the bar can't operate properly with all those non-buyers taking up room at the bar. Looks like they will be able to fit 8 tables in to the new room being built. Seems kind of ideal to me to put at least 2, if not all teams in there.
Food? No real complaints/sugestions from me. I think they already do a decent job with it considering the numbers.
Selection Process? I'm sure I've moaned to half the world about the time I played County A, won 4 from 4, and never got picked to play again. I understand that you can't base it completely on statistics, but neither should it be purely down to a manager's gut feeling - it's very very de-motivating. Mostly I just want the process to be transparant, reasons given, decisions explained, and for the A & B team to work together more. A bar could be made before the season starts for County B players such as - if you achieve over 65% then you qualify for a stint in the A team. Equally if a player drops below 35% in the A team, then they risk being the first to be rotated out for the acieveing B team players. At least that way a player KNOWS that if they achieve then their efforts will be rewarded. That certainty would provide motivation in my opinion.
Youth Policy? I don't know enough about the youth setup to comment.
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Post by juls on Nov 29, 2008 17:17:31 GMT
Paul no disrespect to you or other people involved but if things are being discussed that effect all of the county squad then all the squad should have been invited not just a few hand picked players.
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Post by stelmagic on Dec 1, 2008 11:20:49 GMT
Paul no disrespect to you or other people involved but if things are being discussed that effect all of the county squad then all the squad should have been invited not just a few hand picked players. From a personal point of view I completely disagree big meetings with lots of people trying to have a say are nowhere near as effective as smaller groups, I am aware (from conversations with various players at county)that some may like to have an input I posted on here to offer that chance , as I have already pointed out this is a "suggestions" meeting so anything that is offered will not effect anyone unless it gets approved at a official meeting. Besides from that its not down to my decision who gets invited so try not to shoot the messanger ;D
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Post by P.A.U.L on Dec 1, 2008 11:24:48 GMT
Where is the meeting ? Camb/PBoro
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Post by stelmagic on Dec 1, 2008 11:50:47 GMT
Where is the meeting ? Camb/PBoro Not sure why you are asking? Why do you need to know where a meeting is that you are not asked to attend? No gatecrashers allowed
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Post by orrible on Dec 1, 2008 12:38:20 GMT
it's a coup
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Post by shadydaz on Dec 1, 2008 13:05:12 GMT
I am a Stonecutter, can i come??
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Post by P.A.U.L on Dec 1, 2008 14:26:43 GMT
Where is the meeting ? Camb/PBoro Not sure why you are asking? Why do you need to know where a meeting is that you are not asked to attend? No gatecrashers allowed Just thought that if it was in Cambridge I might pop along and give some of my worldly wisdom. But as this is so obviously a closed session coup-d-etat, fair enough.
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Post by orrible on Dec 1, 2008 14:39:18 GMT
. Selection Process?I'm sure I've moaned to half the world about the time I played County A, won 4 from 4, and never got picked to play again. I understand that you can't base it completely on statistics, but neither should it be purely down to a manager's gut feeling - it's very very de-motivating. Mostly I just want the process to be transparant, reasons given, decisions explained, and for the A & B team to work together more. A bar could be made before the season starts for County B players such as - if you achieve over 65% then you qualify for a stint in the A team. Equally if a player drops below 35% in the A team, then they risk being the first to be rotated out for the acieveing B team players. At least that way a player KNOWS that if they achieve then their efforts will be rewarded. That certainty would provide motivation in my opinion. not that it is my place any more but I have always completely disagreed with you on selection. There is no set format for any team and nor should there be. For instance, why is it that (say) the Sun sports editor doesn't pick the England football team? Or indeed Craig Benstock? The squad would probably be the same. The manager is there for a reason. Just because you won 4/4 doesn't mean you are better than the players, or more likely to win next month. Nor does it mean that you are not good enough. Probably the opposite. No-one wants to do their apprenticeship any more Picking players on results should come second. A Captains opinion shopuld come first taking into consideration the results. Playing or not, it is a team effort.
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Post by Craig Benstock on Dec 1, 2008 14:58:58 GMT
Pretty sure if you re-read my post you will see that I am not asking for a ST format.
Mostly I am just giving a constructive opinion that was asked for.
I totally believe that a place in any team should be one which is earned and deserverd.
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Post by orrible on Dec 1, 2008 15:56:46 GMT
Pretty sure if you re-read my post you will see that I am not asking for a ST format. Mostly I am just giving a constructive opinion that was asked for. I totally believe that a place in any team should be one which is earned and deserverd. Fair enough. My point is that any place in any team should be earned and deserved. the problem is, when more than is required, you should not be restricted by one result. Or even several. The best player or form player plays. Then look at results if unsure.
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Post by mr8balls on Dec 13, 2008 13:13:12 GMT
all ways been who you know ......not what you play like or give to the squad as a whole ....i.e support enthusiasm and team spirit for either team A...OR B.....whether playing i.e starting or sub...if your face does not fit or you have an opinion some senior officals wont entertain some players through personall reasons which will always hinder the county teams A...OR B i am afraid.....selection should be based on ability if you are a strong B team player and make it strong thats were players should stay because 9 times out of 10 they dont make the A team stronger if they are unused subs ...then get 1 frame get dished then back in the B as a sub the next month....at the start of the season the A team captain should select the squad he wants then the B team captain gets the rest....simple keep it simple....then if the B TEAM ARE IN WITH A chance try to add strength to the squad from the A if it is wanted...the A team should only take exceptoinal players from the B if they need them....not just take them for the sake of having them...
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Post by orrible on Dec 15, 2008 11:29:49 GMT
there is some truth in that and difficult to avoid. The problem is, do you give up on a player for having 2 bad outings. Is he suddenly a bad player or does he need to go in the "B" for a wake up call. To promote someone, someone has to make way! The Captain is there to be making these difficult decisions. Not everyone will be treated fairly at all times. That is part of sport unfortunatley.
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Post by mr8balls on Dec 15, 2008 18:39:35 GMT
true fella....but the A team player COULD JUST GET dropped to sub for the A team....and then the regular A team squad player starts in the players position......if you drop them to the B team does that player start in the B....cos that might not give them a wake up and only knock them more......i.e not trying for the B team......the matches in the B are not as open....so you have to dig in and grind alot of games out....battle battle and do some more to get a result....some players dont wanna get down and get dirty to win......the said player from the A might just need some gentle encouragement....lol(if that dont work then drop the bum) lol
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